This one’s raw. Candid. And packed with founder truths you don’t often hear.

Frank Greeff (co-founder of Realbase, acquired for $180M, and now building Kinso) joins Hayley Westoby to talk about what really happens after the exit - the anxiety, reinvention, and pressure to prove yourself again.

In this episode, Frank gets brutally honest about:

Why imposter syndrome hits hardest after success

How to use obsession as a weapon, not a weakness.

The reality of risking everything (including $138K burn rate and $0 revenue)

Building publicly - and why attention is the new currency

Why hiring “weird and obsessed” people is the ultimate business cheat code

The truth about Gen Z, risk, failure, and starting again

It’s one of the most unfiltered conversations we’ve ever had on Top of Mind, equal parts inspiring, grounding, and “holy shit, he really said that.”

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