The Divine Worth Podcast

Ep64: Learning to Love and Be Loved with Elise Palm


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In this episode, Karen welcomes Elise Palm, a relationship therapist from Norway, who shares her powerful journey of discovering divine worth through seasons of depression, service, and relationships. Elise opens up about moving to Alaska as a teenager and falling into a deep depression where she couldn't feel love for anyone—including herself. Through accepting a calling to serve as young women's class president, she experienced God's love flowing through her in ways she never thought possible. Elise also shares vulnerable insights about her first relationship where she struggled with feeling "not worth it," and how Heavenly Father eventually showed her the kind of love she truly deserved. With practical wisdom from her work as a therapist, Elise offers actionable tools for strengthening marriages and embracing the truth that we are daughters and sons of God.

5 Key Takeaways

  1. God's love can flow through service even when we feel numb - During depression, Elise discovered that serving others became a conduit for experiencing divine love, which eventually helped her relearn to love herself.
  2. Learning to be loved is just as important as learning to love - We need both experiences: understanding how to give love AND how to receive it. Without learning to receive, we become resentful and unable to recognize our own worth.
  3. Vulnerability requires courage but creates connection - Asking for what you need in relationships ("I just want you to say 'that sucks'") helps your partner know how to respond and deepens intimacy.
  4. The companionship inventory transforms marriages - Weekly check-ins asking "How did you feel loved this week?" and "What's one goal for our relationship?" create intentional connection and growth (found in Preach My Gospel).
  5. Your divine identity is your strongest defense - Like Moses declaring "I am a son of God," knowing who we are as children of God gives us confidence to resist temptation and refuse to settle for less than we deserve.

Resources Mentioned

  • The Seven Principles for Making Marriage Work by John Gottman
  • Preach My Gospel (Companionship Inventory tool)
  • Moses 1:13 - Elise's favorite divine worth scripture
  • Connect with Elise Palm:

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Remember: You are of worth, you are loved, and only you can make the difference in this world that you are meant to make.


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