Content warning: This episode includes discussion of trauma, incarceration, addiction, and recovery. Listener discretion is advised.
In Part 2 of their conversation with Jacob Ivan Schmitt, Eric and Amy continue to explore the human cost of cycles that begin in childhood and end behind bars — and what it takes to break them.Jacob shares the raw truths of reentry: trying to rebuild trust, navigating systemic barriers, and confronting the consequences of his past.
He opens up about what accountability means after prison, the work of making amends, and the everyday effort of living a life rooted in service instead of survival.
Together, they examine the cracks in the carceral system, the lack of resources for people who want to change, and how lived experience can be the most powerful tool for reform. Jacob’s story is far from finished — but it’s already reshaping the narrative of what redemption can look like.