What drives real success? In this episode of Gogopreneur, Gogo Bethke sits down with Verl Workman to talk about what it really takes—not just to make money, but to live with purpose.

Verl shares how building a million-dollar net worth wasn’t about chasing money. It was about making sure he’d never be broke again. From setting big, “unrealistic” goals to breaking the cycle of poverty, he shows what it looks like to go all in.

They talk about why normal goal-setting can actually hold you back, why success doesn’t happen overnight, and how true freedom isn’t about how much you make—it’s about having options.

If you’ve ever felt stuck playing it small or wondered what to do after hitting a big goal, this conversation will challenge your mindset and shift your perspective on what success is really made of.

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