In this episode, we discuss the 2017 puzzle game GNOG, which Epic gave away from August 8 to August 15, 2019. In this conversation we get into some practical conversations (around music, achievements, etc) and also philosophical conversations around ontology, how we value and rank things, postmodernism, and what defines a game (for the latter, I recommend Thi Ngyuen's wonderful book Games: Agency as Art).