The Charlie Kirk tragedy has been devastating. The violent event took place because the courage and skill to disagree with words have been lacking. In this episode, we discuss how to see people rather than opposing opinions and how to understand even when we disagree. Ben Schilaty was the guest on this episode, who gave incredible insights. His background as a therapist and teacher, combined with his personal story of being a gay Latter-day Saint, gives him a unique perspective to answer my questions.