Former church pastor Steve Barker sits down with Steve & Tammy to share how he left the "Sunday morning church" in order to find church in the life and people around him.

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5:50- God's "clear" Biblical model?

11:15- How "no manipulation" changed everything

17:58- It's all about relationship

21:03- The current system ain't so bad

29:28- Tammy's thoughts on leaving church

37:22- Releasing control

40:59- New thoughts on "grace"