Phyllis Fagell has worked in both public and private schools with students in grades K-12. She currently works as the school counselor for Sheridan School in Washington, D.C. and provides therapy to children, teens and adults in private practice. 

Phyllis is also a journalist and the author of Middle School Matters: The 10 Key Skills Kids Need to Thrive in Middle School and Beyond -- and How Parents Can Help. She’s a frequent contributor to the Washington Post and other major news outlets, focusing on counseling, parenting and education.

You can find her at PhyllisFagell.com and on Twitter.

Hosted by Dr. Sheryl Ziegler.

This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit drsherylziegler.substack.com/subscribe