This week's song choice was recommended to us by a loyal listener...thanks Courtney! And what a great song choice it is. The episode begins with us attempting to summarize our entire 10-minute conversation that never got recorded. There's talk of Rep TV and Debut TV and our theories on when that will happen. We discuss incredible siblings during our new shit segment. And lastly, we get into the emotional depth of Nothing New, the significance behind Taylor being 22 when she wrote it, and why she opted to have a featured artist on this song. Swiggies: will you still want us when we're nothing new?