Australia has always punched well above its weight in global artistic affairs, and artistic collaboration is at the heart of that.

David Ryding has had a long career in the arts, as a performer, director, and arts administrator, before beginning a fruitful term as Founding Director of the  Melbourne UNESCO City of Literature Office. Georgia and Dave take this opportunity to catch up, many years after they first connected at the University Dramatic Society, to talk about the state of the arts, literature, and how things have changed.

For links to many of the initiatives Georgia and Dave talk about, visit the Substack at heregoesnothingpod.substack.com.