This time Luau Lou is joined once again by Edwin Nagy of Frog God Games and extra special guest, Bill Barsh of Pacesetter Games and Simulations.  We talk about a lot of things including game publishing, retro clones, precieved Game Master failures, and of course the central piece a look into the original Pacesetter Games's CHILL RPG -oh and Bill gives us the goods on his company's Gamma X project as well as some teasers for their entry into the horror genre...