In today's episode, Roberto reconnects with Tony DelaRosa, a multifaceted educator, poet, and PhD student at UW Madison. It's been nearly three years since their collaborative poetry session, and now they dive deep into the complex impacts of affirmative action bans on education and racial dynamics.

Tony, the author of "Teaching the Invisible Race," shares insights from his extensive research on ethnic studies and race-based policies. Together, Roberto and Tony explore the implications of these policies on Asian American communities, as well as the potential ripple effects on Black and Latinx enrollments.

Throughout the conversation, Tony underscores the importance of cross-racial solidarity and the inclusion of diverse Asian American narratives in education. They discuss proactive educational leadership and the integration of underrepresented stories into the curriculum, using poetry as a powerful tool for emotional and cultural engagement.

Join us as we delve into the nuances of ethnic representation, the importance of solidarity among marginalized groups, and the ongoing efforts to elevate Asian American visibility in our educational systems. Tune in for an episode packed with profound insights and actionable ideas.