Jenn Seniuk works as an art therapist in Calgary, Alberta. We talked not just about art therapy - working with a professionally trained therapist to use art as another language for accessing and processing our feelings and sensations - but also 'art as therapy,' which is about engaging in the process of making art for creative self-expression, in the in-between spaces, and calming the nervous system.

Everyone is innately creative and everyone can make art, if only we can let go of the judgments we might hold about what we create. Creativity is encoded directly in our DNA, just like our need and desire to be in community and have meaningful conversations.

I really enjoyed hearing Jenn talk about the My friend Dave project and how she meets with marginalized and vulnerable men every Monday in the park. And not just meeting with them, but meeting them where they're at, where they're being brave and sharing the scary things.

Find out more about Jenn and her practice on instagram @BellyEyeArtTherapy, @MyFriendDaveYYC & @ArtTherapy.is, on TikTok @BellyEyeArtTherapy & @MyFriendDaveYYC, and on her websites BellyEyeArtTherapy.com & MyFriendDave.ca. And also please check out her podcast Art Therapy Is on Spotify and Apple Podcasts.