John and Seth talk with DC political consultant Joe Fuld, founder of the Campaign Workshop, to discuss the skills and training of the current presidential and vice presidential candidates. How much does candidate skill actually matter? How well are these candidates doing? Could Kamala Harris have had a more successful rollout? Is Trump campaigning differently from 2016 or 2020? We also pivot to a discussion of pie crust and biscuits, and Joe has thoughts.

Links:

* Cathead biscuits from Garden & Gun

* A pie crust recipe that includes Joe’s secret ingredient

* The Campaign Workshop Blog

* The How to Win a Campaign podcast

* America’s Test Kitchen explains the role of vodka in pie crust

Also here’s a peach pie Seth made:

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