In Episode 11, Kyle talks with Katie Fernholz, president and CEO of Dovetail Partners, Inc. Katie has been a prominent member of Minnesota’s forestry community for a couple of decades now. Her work to advance forest certification and more recently innovations in the wood products sector have focused on the many ways that forestry can help solve some of society's greatest environmental problems. In fast-moving and insightful conversation, Katie and Kyle discuss her many leadership roles, challenges she has faced along the way, and how to advance change in the forestry profession. Music by Marshall Usinger. If you cannot see the audio controls, your browser does not support the audio element.