*Mud, Meaning & Masculinity — with Poet & Positive Psych Star John Sean Doyle**  

What if embracing pain was the key to more joy, connection, and purpose?

In this thought-provoking convo, Dr. John sits down with **John Sean Doyle** — poet, lawyer, and “the poetic voice of positive psychology” — to talk about how to stay grounded in a chaotic world and live with more reverence, resilience, and kindness.

We cover:
- The beauty of *both/and* — joy and pain, awe and grief  
- How to raise kinder kids (and better men)  
- Why meaning and poetry are essential for a well-lived life  
- Lessons from working with drill sergeants, judges, monks, and more  
- His powerful book, *Mud and Dreams*

**About John Sean Doyle:**  
Sean is a poet, lawyer, and former positive psych professor. His writing and workshops help people recover reverence for life and create a culture of compassion — from the courtroom to the classroom to the dinner table.

📘 [JohnSeanDoyle.com](https://johnseandoyle.com)  
📩 [email protected]  
📱 IG/Twitter: [@JohnSeanDoyle](https://twitter.com/JohnSeanDoyle)

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