In this episode, Scotty and Dan engage in a lively discussion exploring the dichotomy between perception-based and outcome-based leadership. They delve into the characteristics that distinguish these two types of leaders and the impact each has on team dynamics and organizational success. The conversation touches on the techniques used by perception-based leaders to maintain their image often at the expense of tangible results and the morale of their teams. They also discuss the complexities of addressing such behaviours, the importance of a supportive environment, and potential strategies for mitigating the negative impacts. This discussion provides a nuanced examination of leadership motivations, workplace culture, and the challenges leaders face in striving for authentic, result-driven leadership.