Sim Kern is an author and social media creator who sprang to prominence at the beginning of Israel's latest war on the people of Gaza. As they have spoken out, from a Jewish perspective, against zionist justifications for Israel's violence, they have articulated what many within and outside Jewish communities feel about Israel and Zionism.

As a result of their TikToks, they were invited by America's only Palestinian-owned publisher, Interlink, to get some of those helpful thoughts onto paper. The result is Genocide Bad, a book that was denounced by some Israeli pundits before it had been published, and which made the NYT bestseller list.

In this episode, Sim talks to Jonty about why they don't use the word 'antisemitism' anymore, how they have experienced all the attention (positive and very negative), and what Christians and other people concerned about justice can say and do in the face of overwhelming political and media support for Israel's war crimes.

They also talk about finding hope in a bathroom stall. It's pretty cool.

Follow Sim on TikTok @simkern, on Insta @sim_bokstagrams_badly and at simkern.com

Check out Genocide Bad at interlinkbooks.com and find this interview in print (alongside similar voices) in Issue 4 of S(h)ibboleth magazine shibbolethmag.com

You can listen to Episode 113 anywhere: in a pro-Palestinian march, at a Jewish antizionist reading group, in church, or right here…