In this special episode of the 2Tokens Podcast, host Jonny Fry is joined by Coen ter Wal (Association for Financial Markets in Europe – AFME) and Meindert Jansberg (Catena / Energy Blocks) for a live discussion from Amsterdam, where the Dutch National Bank has convened experts to explore one of the hottest topics in finance: tokenization.

This episode explores how distributed ledger technology (DLT) is transforming capital markets, from sovereign bond issuance to renewable energy financing, and how the Netherlands continues its long tradition of financial innovation. The guests discuss the growing interest of regulators, the role of banks in enabling digital assets, and the potential of tokenized bonds, stablecoins, and programmable money to close Europe’s mid-market funding gap.

They also highlight how tokenization can unlock new investment opportunities for SMEs, increase efficiency, and reshape the way financial infrastructure operates, paving the way for a more open, data-driven, and composable financial system.

Together, the trio explore:
- Why tokenization matters for Europe’s financial future
- How DLT could reshape SME funding and project finance
- The evolving roles of banks, investors, and regulators in a tokenized economy
- The interplay between stablecoins, tokenized deposits, and CBDCs
- The macroeconomic implications of digital money adoption

Learn more about AFME: https://www.afme.eu/
and Energy Blocks: https://www.energyblocks.nl/
Check out the Digital Bytes blog: https://digitalbytes.substack.com/

Participants:
Jonny Fry: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonnyfry/
Coen ter Wal: https://www.linkedin.com/in/coenterwal/
Meindert Jansberg: https://www.linkedin.com/in/meindertjansberg/

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