The second half of what was supposed to be a quick and easy pair of episodes to research, record and edit, with less than 2 hours of screen time across the two stories. But somehow Richard has managed to invite everybody, so Giles, Rick and Paul are joined by returning guest Gav Rymill and this part is even longer than the first half.

We're discussing two stories which introduce an unexpected Doctor: last time it was the two part 6th Doctor story which concludes the whole Season 23 story The Trial of a Time lord, also known as The Ultimate Foe, which we've paired in this episode with 13th Doctor outing Fugitive of the Judoon from Series 12. We'll decide whether these stories give you a nice surprise or a nasty shock.

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Gav's excellent YouTube series Terry Nation Army can be found here: https://youtube.com/user/Dalek6388. Also, next time you're in the North West, check out his new venture - West Kirby Escape Room: The Jurassic Factor westkirbyescaperoom.co.uk

Head over to https://www.bigfinish.com/, where we all love Paul's stories. You can find his latest Companion Chronicle The White Ship here as part of the Families box set: https://www.bigfinish.com/releases/v/doctor-who-the-companion-chronicles-families-3001

Rick posts on social media as @brickpandorica, where you can find fantastic pictures of his Lego models of Doctor Who moments.

Giles is a published author with many books, primarily related to science and astronomy. check out his work here: https://www.amazon.co.uk/stores/Giles-Sparrow/author/B001IXOESC, or anywhere you go to find books.

Richard's other podcast "If It's Hurting, It's not Working" is currently on hiatus, but it's a fun and informative look at work - why we work, how we work, and what makes a great job. And also what makes a great workplace, how to turn things round when we're not enjoying our work and, in the end, how we can all make our work better. For all episodes, go to https://ifhurtnotwork.podbean.com/ and https://ifhurtnot.work.

The Something Who logo, which features prominently on all our cover art was designed for us by Bea Garrido. She's a really talented artist, who you can find by following this link: https://beagarridoart.weebly.com/, where you can buy prints of some remarkable paintings of characters from Doctor Who.

The opening music is Three Guitars Mood 2 and, yes, that is Richard playing the ukulele and kazoo on possibly the worst ever version of the Doctor Who theme tune at the end.