As AI begins to make decisions once reserved for humans, one question becomes central: Can machines ever earn our trust?

In this conversation, Dr. Z and Latif are joined by Varun Jain, technologist and founder of Comply Jet, a company helping SaaS organizations navigate security, compliance, and the new frontier of trust.

Together, they explore what trust really means in the age of AI—breaking it down into three essential layers:

Security: Protecting data with intention.
Reliability: Performing beyond the demo.
Clarity: Explaining not just what AI does, but why.

But the episode doesn’t stop at systems—it turns deeply human.

 Parallels between human evolution and AI are discussed, such as: 

• If our behavior is shaped by reward and correction, could AI lose its curiosity the way we have?
• What does it mean to “teach” machines with our own imperfect values?
• And how can we design trust dashboards that make accountability visible

Join us as we reflect on how trust, mindfulness, and evolution intertwine—and why our future with AI depends on slowing down long enough to ask not just can we, but should we.

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