Singer and songwriter Abner Ramirez is one-half of the popular R&B/folk duo Johnnyswim. With a highly anticipated new album releasing April 19th, Abner joins Cameron for a wide-ranging conversation. You’ll of course hear about the new project, of course, but also his faith journey, how he pursued Amanda (it’s a great story), what Chip and Jo are like in real life, and yes, what it’s like being friends with Steph Curry.