Two former Bachelor stars. Two very different, but impactful, post-show paths. One episode about what it really looks like to use your platform well.

In this new installment of The RELEVANT Podcast: Impact Conversations, Emily Brown and Cameron Strang sit down with Madi Prewett Troutt and Ben Higgins to talk about life after reality TV, spiritual growth, calling, purpose, and how to steward influence in a way that actually matters.

First, Emily talks with Madi Prewett Troutt, who has spent the last five years immersed in ministry—preaching, writing, podcasting, discipling young women, and building a life rooted deeply in Scripture and the local church. She opens up about spiritual transformation, accountability, confession, motherhood, leadership, and learning to stay true to her convictions even when it’s costly.

Then Cameron sits down with Ben Higgins, who—after his time on The Bachelor—built Generous Coffee, launched multiple businesses, stepped into a major faith-centered role at iHeartRadio, and wrote a book on connection. Ben shares candidly about anxiety, purpose, fatherhood, entrepreneurship, and using business as a vehicle for generosity and Kingdom impact.

If you’ve ever wondered how to live out your calling, use your platform responsibly, walk in integrity, or navigate fame and faith in a digital age—this episode is rich, honest, and deeply encouraging.

Presented by World Vision.

HIGHLIGHTS:

01:50 — Madi Prewett Troutt

02:13 — Madi on how her life has changed since The Bachelor

04:57 — Moving from motivational speaking to biblical teaching

07:11 — How moving and finding a new church shaped her spiritual growth

09:57 — How Madi discerns what God is calling her to speak into

12:21 — Choosing conviction over comfort

16:53 — Breaking secret sin cycles and finding freedom

22:14 — Protecting peace and setting boundaries on social media

28:23 — Why Madi launched her podcast and how God led the timing

33:37 — Learning patience when God says “wait”

38:21 — Ben Higgins

41:28 — Life/work balance as a new dad

43:30 — What Ben does for work now

45:49 — How his role at iHeartRadio is expanding into faith initiatives

50:39 — Rethinking conferences, creativity, and reaching the disconnected

52:29 — Mike Foster’s coaching

56:03 — Restaurant ventures, investing and avoiding AI-replaceable spaces

59:16 — Why his new book is about connection (not fame)

1:02:11 — Feeling like an outsider and the moment everything changed

1:04:47 — How vulnerability unexpectedly connected him with millions

1:07:21 — Did The Bachelor change him?

1:10:06 — A friend’s advice that shifted his entire approach to fame

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Chris Llewellyn from Irish folk worship band Rend Collective joins us to talk about the band’s new album 'Christmas in Belfast,' the surprising Irish traditions behind it and what it’s like navigating life between Ireland and Nashville.

We also break down the biggest stories in faith and culture, including NF’s record-setting Billboard debut, the wild rise of AI-generated music, and Patriots rookie TreVeyon Henderson’s faith-forward breakout. Plus, the crew swaps celebrity-encounter stories and brings Chris into a special holiday round of “One Has to Go.”

CHAPTERS:

02:00 – Jesse spots an SNL cast member at the airport

06:30 – Marty’s celebrity encounters at LAX

08:30 – Cameron’s wild Kanye West airport story

09:40 – RELEVANT Buzz 

09:55 – NF’s massive Billboard debut

12:00 – AI music platform Suno is creating 7 million songs a day

14:20 – Is AI killing creativity? The crew debates

19:10 – Patriots rookie TreVeyon Henderson’s record-breaking game & public faith

24:10 – Chris Llewellyn of Rend Collective

24:40 – The story behind Christmas in Belfast

26:40 – Irish Christmas traditions & late-night candlelit services

27:50 – Gaelic football, Welsh kickers & Jesse’s confusion

29:55 – Chris on moving from Ireland to Nashville

31:00 – How Irish political history shaped his view of division

32:15 – Holiday Edition of “One Has to Go” with Chris

35:35 – Marty’s trauma with board games

36:10 – Brunch vs. naps: the debate

38:00 – Emily vs. “crisp evenings”

39:00 – Snoopy, Peanuts, and Christmas ornament chaos

40:45 – Group prayer handholding horrors

43:30 – Emily’s tiny tabletop Christmas tree revelation

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On this episode of our Impact Conversations series, we sit down with Tara-Leigh Cobble, creator of The Bible Recap — one of the most influential Bible-reading podcasts in the world. Tara-Leigh shares how The Bible Recap started, how she built a global Bible-reading community and what she’s learned about Scripture, calling and obedience along the way. If you’re trying to understand the Bible or want to stay consistent in your Bible reading plan, this conversation is for you.

We also feature a bonus interview with Christian financial expert Art Rainer, who breaks down how to approach money, generosity and financial stress from a biblical perspective. If you’re looking for Christian financial advice, how to give when money is tight or how to steward your resources well, you’ll want to hear this.

Presented by World Vision.

CHAPTERS:

02:37 — Tara-Leigh Cobble: How The Bible Recap Started

06:04 — Building the podcast with a $99 mic

08:45 — When the calling gets costly

10:55 — The story that kept her going

14:43 — Leadership, discernment and calling

16:49 — Feeling unqualified but called

21:09 — Advice for taking your first step

23:17 — Bonus Interview: Art Rainer

26:13 — Money is a tool, not a goal

28:10 — How to be generous when money is tight

33:31 — Giving, debt and proportional generosity

37:00 — Creative ways to be generous without money

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This week on The RELEVANT Podcast, we dive into the strange new digital reality Christians are wrestling with — from AI artists topping the Christian charts to foreign troll farms shaping what we see online, even in faith spaces. Throughout the show, we keep asking one big question: can we trust anything online anymore?

Plus, we talk Kristen Bell’s surprise appearance on a Fox News Bible podcast (and her feelings about that), Nate Bargatze’s real-life theme park, weird holiday debates, outlawed pickleball, Thanksgiving pizza and a lot more. It’s a holiday-week hangout episode with Cameron, Jesse and Emily — no guest, just chaos, honesty and a lot of laughs.

0:35 – Why do our YouTube views explode days later?

6:00 – Thanksgiving: the obligation holiday?

7:30 – When do you become the “main house” for holidays?

8:30 – Jesse’s traumatic Big Lots Thanksgiving miracle

14:20 – RELEVANT Buzz: AI tops the Christian charts

24:30 – Kristen Bell accidentally starring in a Fox News Bible podcast

30:40 – Nate Bargatze is opening a theme park?!

36:30 – SLICES: Pickleball banned in California

39:30 – The Elvis Judge saga

43:00 – Thanksgiving pizza: yes or no?

44:30 – ONE HAS TO GO: Holiday Edition

50:30 – Matching Christmas pajamas

51:15 – Final thoughts

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Worship leader and Passion artist Kristian Stanfill joins us to talk about the long road from addiction to five years of sobriety, the moment everything changed and how his new album 'Come to Jesus' was born from real healing and real joy.

Cameron, Jesse, Derek and Emily also bring RELEVANT Buzz, our weekly breakdown of the latest at the intersection of faith and culture — and of course, we close the show with Slices, where the crew dives into the funniest, weirdest and most unexpected stories the internet has to offer.

Show Highlights

01:25 — Denver altitude, sinus infections & Cameron’s Chap Stick disaster

04:36 — The Colorado horse-ride saga and Derek’s conspiracy theories

08:55 — RELEVANT Buzz 

09:00 — Daniel Caesar’s faith-filled album hits the charts

11:00 — The wild bike-prank video Jesse found on his cursed algorithm

12:05 — Vine is officially coming back… sort of

16:20 — Jenna Jameson gets baptized and shares her story

18:15 — Guest: Kristian Stanfill joins the show

18:45 — Why he made a solo album (Come to Jesus)

21:00 — “I needed a revelation of Jesus” — Kristian on what actually changed him

26:15 — What year four to year five of sobriety taught him

27:20 — The power of community, vulnerability and refusing isolation

28:15 — Advice for pastors, leaders and anyone afraid to ask for help

31:20 — Does he get tired of talking about his darkest season?

33:55 — Slices: A horse falls into a family’s backyard pool

39:20 — An AI song hits No. 1 on the country charts

45:55 — Congress quietly bans Delta-8 and similar THC products

48:20 — The dark side of unregulated synthetic drugs

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In this episode of the RELEVANT Podcast Impact Conversation Series, we sit down with two leaders who have shaped the faith lives of billions.

First, adventurer and global TV icon Bear Grylls opens up about how the wilderness taught him about spiritual survival. It’s one of Bear’s most personal and honest conversations ever — covering doubt, faith, courage and why he believes Jesus’ life is the greatest adventure of all.

Then, YouVersion founder Bobby Gruenewald joins us fresh off a historic milestone: one billion downloads of the Bible App. He shares the wild origin story of YouVersion, how God exceeded every expectation, how to steward faith in a tech-driven world and why Gen Z is turning to Scripture like never before.

This episode is part of our special Impact Series sponsored by World Vision, whose community-focused work is changing lives around the globe. Learn more and get involved at WorldVision.org/RELEVANT.

CHAPTERS

00:00 — Introduction from Cameron Strang

02:19 — Emily Brown sits down with Bear Grylls

02:30 — Writing Jesus’ story as a thriller (and why no one had done it)

05:13 — How his new book began in the middle of the jungle

07:33 — Physical survival and spiritual survival: where they intersect

09:22 — Faith, doubt, fear and the courage to keep going

11:19 — What surprised Bear most after rereading the Bible three times

13:23 — Working with The Chosen and making “Chosen in the Wild”

16:07 — Why faith is breaking through in entertainment right now

18:20 — The first time Bear spoke publicly about faith (yes, including Obama)

20:07 — Cameron wraps Bear’s segment and introduces Bobby Gruenewald of YouVersion

21:49 — How a security line in Chicago sparked the Bible App

23:57 — Launching on Day 1 of the App Store… with zero Apple contacts

27:59 — What surprised him about global Bible engagement

30:48 — Balancing ministry and data while staying donor-supported

33:20 — From serial entrepreneur to lifelong ministry calling

37:26 — Where faith and technology are headed next

41:52 — AI, ethics and why YouVersion refuses to rush a chatbot

44:09 — What Bobby hopes YouVersion’s legacy will be 50 years from now

49:22 — Gen Z’s surprising hunger for Scripture

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This week, Kings Kaleidoscope’s Chad Gardner joins us to talk about the band’s new album, “Asaph's Arrows II,” a return to their roots reimagining classic hymns. He opens up about creative integrity, the lessons of Mars Hill, and how the band’s journey has reshaped his view of worship and art. Plus, the cast tackles haircut horror stories, the SNAP funding freeze, Mike Todd’s viral Breakfast Club interview and this year’s weirdest scientific discoveries.

Highlights:

1:00 – Intros

10:45 – The Great Hair Debate: Who has the courage to stop a bad haircut in progress?

11:00 – RELEVANT Buzz: This week’s headlines at the intersection of faith and culture

11:15 – SNAP Funding Freeze: 42 million Americans face a food crisis — what Christians can actually do to help

12:15 – Church vs. State: Who’s really responsible for feeding the hungry?

17:30 – Mike Todd on The Breakfast Club: Why he went viral (again)

25:20 – Special Guest: Kings Kaleidoscope’s Chad Gardner joins to talk about the band’s new album, “Asaph’s Arrows II”

26:00 – Back to the Beginning: Why Kings is remaking hymns after a decade of experimentation

30:10 – “The rose that grew from concrete”: How Mars Hill shaped Kings Kaleidoscope’s DNA

36:15 – The Future of Kings Kaleidoscope: How Kings might return to leading church worship

42:00 – SLICES:

• Jesse’s “Ig Nobel Awards” — scientists prove drunk bats fly worse and cows painted like zebras get fewer fly bites

• Marty’s Vintage Gaming Corner — a Russian Sims 2 love story gone terribly wrong

52:46 — Marty tells us about his exciting new project

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Christian researcher, sociologist and Hamilton actress Ashley LaLonde joins The RELEVANT Podcast to unpack new data revealing why more Gen Z women are walking away from church. She explains how purity culture, politics and the lack of space for single or career-focused women are reshaping faith for a generation. It's a must-listen conversation! Plus, we have RELEVANT Buzz and Slices

1:00 – The Crew Debates Big Napkin: Jesse exposes the “decorative napkin industrial complex.”

6:30 – The Dollar Tree Uprising: The cast demands rebranding to “$1.25 Tree.”

8:00 – Smooth Pivot Attempt: Cameron tries to move from napkins to faith and culture.

9:00 – RELEVANT Buzz: This week’s headlines at the intersection of faith and culture

9:15 – Frankie Muniz Finds God: The Malcolm in the Middle star’s surprising faith story

12:00 – Christian Music Chart Update: Josiah Queen, Phil Wickham, and the rise of worship on Billboard’s Hot 100

15:45 – Hip-Hop’s Chart Collapse: No rap songs in the Top 40 for the first time in 35 years

16:00 – Derek’s Deep Dive: Why hip-hop lost its cultural soul — from gatekeepers to gentrification

25:00 – Special Guest: Ashley LaLonde (Barna Group / Hamilton) joins to talk about the new Barna study on Gen Z women and faith

26:45 – Why Gen Z Women Are Leaving the Church: Ashley explains the data — 38% now religiously unaffiliated

27:30 – The Purity Culture Fallout: How sexual shame and rigid gender roles alienated a generation

28:10 – Politics and the Pulpit: How Christian nationalism and partisanship push women away

29:20 – The Marriage Idol: Are churches overvaluing family and under-serving single women?

30:45 – Solidarity and Inclusion: Why many young women leave in support of LGBTQ friends

31:50 – Social Capital Shift: Why church is still “advantageous” for men but costly for women socially

32:40 – A New Kind of Spiritual Hunger: How disengaged women are still deeply curious about faith

34:10 – The Marriage Question: How this trend could reshape Christian dating and marriage rates

35:00 – Ashley’s Challenge to the Church: How to re-engage single women and rethink discipleship

36:10 – The Urban Divide: Are cities different from suburbs? Ashley offers insight

38:00 – The Fallout of Scandal: How church abuse crises have eroded trust among women

39:15 – Reckoning with Failure: Ashley calls the Church to repent for how it’s treated women

40:00 – Ashley’s Story: From Harvard to Hamilton to Barna Group — how faith shaped her calling

42:45 – Perseverance and Purpose: Six years of rejection before booking Hamilton

43:40 – From Broadway to Research: How she now combines creativity, sociology and ministry

44:30 – The cast reacts — “That was the most insightful segment we’ve ever done.”

45:00 – SLICES:

• Jesse’s “Aggressive Research Monkeys on the Loose” story

• Derek’s real-life 'Suits' case — the fake lawyer who won 26 cases

Watch the full video episode on RELEVANT's YouTube channel!

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In this episode of our IMPACT Conversation Series, entrepreneur David Meltzer shares how losing everything led him to redefine success through faith, gratitude and purpose. Then, pastor and author Mark Batterson unpacks the message behind his new bookGradually Then Suddenly — why breakthroughs happen slowly, then all at once. Hosted by Cameron Strang and presented by World Vision, these conversations explore what it really means to make an impact through business, ministry and everyday faith.

CHAPTERS:

00:00 — Introduction with Cameron Strang

01:18 — World Vision partnership + mission spotlight

02:30 — David Meltzer joins the conversation

04:00 — Losing everything and redefining success

07:10 — Rebuilding faith, gratitude, and purpose

10:45 — How business can be a tool for impact

14:20 — The balance between ambition and surrender

18:05 — Closing thoughts from Cameron

21:25 — Introduction to Mark Batterson

21:40 — “Gradually Then Suddenly”: the meaning behind the title

23:00 — The myth of overnight success

24:20 — Why faith often moves at the speed of a seed

25:55 — Persistence: the bridge between failure and breakthrough

28:30 — Discerning when to persist and when to pivot

30:50 — How to stay faithful in the “gradually” seasons

32:45 — Encouragement for those still waiting for their “suddenly”

35:40 — Final reflections from Mark Batterson

36:54 — Cameron Strang outro + next episode tease

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This week the crew breaks down the NBA’s shocking gambling scandal, Daniel Caesar’s unexpected faith journey, and what actually happens after we die. Plus, Jelly Roll launches a free rehab center, Emily questions if Florida makes the cut for the New Earth and Jesse warns us about smart beds gone rogue.

CHAPTERS

00:00 Intro 

01:15 The NBA Gambling Scandal → Chauncey Billups, the mafia & a Walter White theory

15:00 RELEVANT Buzz: Daniel Caesar’s Faith Journey & New Album

22:00 Jelly Roll’s Free Rehab Center

24:00 Faith Charting Again on Prime Video + Hollywood vs. Christian Storytelling

27:00 “What Happens When We Die?” — Cameron Breaks Down Heaven, The Good Place & the Bible’s Timeline

35:00 Afterlife Debate → New Earth, Time & Purpose in Eternity

45:00 SLICES: Smart Beds Gone Wild & The Robot Uprising

New video episodes of The RELEVANT Podcast drop every Tuesday on the RELEVANT Podcast Youtube channel!

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