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I’m sure you’ve never heard a story like this. Brenda Palmer doesn’t do “church talk.” She does honesty.

In this episode of The Deep End, Lecrae sits down with Brenda Palmer for a deep conversation on what it actually looks like to follow Jesus.

We talk about:

• When her pastor had a affair… (with her boyfriend)
• Singleness as “undivided” devotion—without treating marriage like the finish line
• Staying pure
• The Greek life / “denouncing” conversation, deliverance language, and where conviction ends and fear-mongeing begins
• What Brenda’s building next

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Lecrae goes fully unfiltered in this episode—breaking down the AI-Christian music debate, the motives behind viral posts, political fatigue, Christian persecution, racialized narratives, and the cost of actually following Jesus when culture co-opts faith for its own agenda.

From Forrest Frank’s comments… to AI artists… to Epstein files… to Nigeria… to Chicago crime narratives… to why Christianity keeps getting used as a weapon… to Kai Cenat publicly praising Jesus—Lecrae processes it all in real time. No script. No PR filter. Just raw, honest reflection on a chaotic week online.

If you’ve ever wondered “How should a Christian think about all this?”—this episode goes there.

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This one got real. Toni Collier came on The Deep End and opened up about her story in a way that honestly stunned me. We talked childhood trauma, addiction, abusive marriages, infidelity, church hurt, losing everything, rebuilding from nothing, and how Jesus met her in the ashes.

She let us into the parts most people hide… the parts she had to grieve her way through while still being a mom, still trying to follow Jesus, still trying to breathe. And what I love is that she didn’t come here pretending. She came here healing.

If you’ve walked through betrayal, divorce, heartbreak, or just feel like you’re carrying more than you can hold.

Toni’s new book Don’t Try This Alone is all about why we need people, and after this episode… you’ll get why.

Lean in. There’s real hope in here.

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In this episode, Lecrae sits down with the one-and-only KevOnStage for a raw, hilarious, surprisingly vulnerable conversation about fame, faith, Hollywood, fatherhood, grief, marriage, ambition, and what it means to stay grounded when the whole world has an opinion about your life.

Kev opens up about the early days of his career, why contentment matters more than clout, the pressure of being a public Christian on the internet, and how he learned to stop defending himself to strangers. He talks navigating Hollywood without losing his convictions, dealing with public grief, raising kids while staying sane, and why laughter has become a form of healing after losing his brother.

They unpack the Den of Kings tension with NLE Choppa and Jonathan Majors, the viral Ray J back-smack moment, growing up churchy with no real guidance, and why so many Christians privately break the rules they publicly preach. Kev also shares behind-the-scenes of Churchy, his new show Safe Space, and how marriage, purpose, and heartbreak have shaped the art he makes today.

If you love honest conversation, cultural insight, deep faith reflections, or you just want to laugh until you cry…this one is special.

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Tim Timberlake sat down with Lecrae for one of the most honest conversations we’ve ever had on The Deep End. From church scandals and false prophets to what real prayer looks like—this episode goes there.

Tim opens up about the dream that changed his life, how he discovered corruption in the church he inherited, and what it really means to lead with integrity when everyone’s watching. They dive into the rise of “TikTok prophets,” why so many Christians confuse content for calling, and how to actually hear God’s voice in a noisy world.

If you’ve ever been burned by church, confused by the chaos online, or just need a reminder that God still speaks—this one’s for you.

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If my son or daughter came to me and said, “Dad, I’m thinking about joining a fraternity or sorority,” I’d probably say no, but not for the reasons you think.

In this episode, I share my own story of pledging Kappa Alpha Psi, why I joined, why I left, and how my perspective has changed over the years. I’ve seen people go back and forth for decades about whether Christians should denounce Black Greek life. Some call it idolatry; others call it community. I’ve lived both sides of it.

We talk about the real history behind these organizations, why fear often drives the conversation, and what the Bible actually says about things like oaths, culture, and conscience. This isn’t about picking sides, it’s about being consistent and letting your faith lead your decisions instead of fear.

Whether you’ve pledged, denounced, or just don’t get the hype, I think this will give you something to think about.

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Apologist and evangelist Preston Perry joins Lecrae on The Deep End for a raw and thoughtful conversation about defending the faith without losing compassion. From debating Hebrew Israelites and Muslims to raising kids in a spiritual war, Preston breaks down why winning arguments isn’t the same as winning souls — and how empathy, truth, and obedience work together in evangelism.

They dive deep into:

• The difference between apologetics and argument
• How to spot the line between boldness and pride
• Reaching people who’ve been hurt by religion
• What Christians get wrong about empathy
• The truth about Hebrew Israelites, Islam, and false religions
• Breaking generational curses and fatherhood in a dark world
• The controversy around Charlie Kirk, race, and idolatry in the church

If you’ve ever wondered how to stand firm in truth while still leading with love — this episode will challenge and encourage you to do both.

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Dr. Tony Evans sits down with Lecrae for one of his most powerful and personal interviews yet. From growing up in Baltimore to becoming one of the most influential pastors of our time, Dr. Evans opens up about his father’s radical transformation, his journey as one of the first Black students at Dallas Theological Seminary, and how he built Oak Cliff Bible Fellowship.

They dive deep into the tensions of race, theology, and unity in the church, the hidden cost of leading a megachurch, raising godly kids in the public eye, and what spiritual warfare really looks like behind the scenes. Dr. Evans also shares how he navigated profound grief and loss, what it means to trust God in the dark, and the legacy he hopes to leave behind.

This conversation is a masterclass in faith, leadership, and resilience — with timeless wisdom for anyone navigating pain, calling, or cultural chaos.

Watch this episode to hear:

– How Tony Evans’ father’s conversion changed their family forever

– What it was like being one of the first Black seminarians in Dallas

– The hidden spiritual battles behind leadership and ministry

– How to raise a godly family in a glass house

– Why unity in the church reveals the glory of God

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Former Pussycat Doll, Kaya Jones, opens up to Lecrae about the dark side of fame, the spiritual war behind the music industry, and how Jesus redeemed her life.

From being signed by R. Kelly at 12 years old to witnessing the deepest corruption in pop culture, Kaya reveals what really happens behind the stage lights - and how God rescued her from the darkness. She shares the pain of industry abuse, abortion, and manipulation, and the supernatural ways God called her out of it all.

In this powerful conversation, Lecrae and Kaya talk about:

• The demonic systems running the entertainment industry
• Finding identity and freedom through Christ
• Why she left the Pussycat Dolls at their peak
• How Messianic Judaism reshaped her faith
• What it means to live fully redeemed in a broken culture

This episode exposes what many are afraid to say — but also points to the hope that never dies: Jesus still redeems the most unlikely stories.

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In this episode of The Deep End, Lecrae wrestles with the chaos of our modern culture wars. From the fallout of Charlie Kirk’s assassination to the pressure Christians feel to “pick a side,” he shares his personal experience of being pulled into the crossfire. Lecrae opens up about a shocking vision he had in Africa, the spiritual realities behind political violence, and why the Kingdom of God cannot be reduced to red vs. blue.

This conversation challenges us to ask: Are we fighting with the weapons of the empire, or living out the way of Jesus?

📌 Topics we cover:

• Why Christians are pressured to join the culture war
• Lecrae’s personal story after Charlie Kirk’s death
• A powerful vision revealing the spiritual battle behind political violence
• Empire vs. Kingdom logic: what Jesus modelled in the midst of conflict
• How the church can embody unity, truth, and love in divided times

The Kingdom doesn’t look like the left or the right — it looks like Christ.

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