Can demons read your minds? Do they possess people outright, or is it something more subtle? And what does any of this have to do with the Epstein files?

In Part 2 of this conversation, Lecrae and Dr. Joel Muddamalle go deeper into the unseen world, breaking down how demonic powers actually operate, what "entry points" really mean, and why the line between oppression and possession is less clear-cut than most Christians assume.

They also unpack Psalm 121, the geopolitical theology of Daniel 10, and why Paul's language for "powers and principalities" connects directly to the false gods of the Old Testament.

Plus, the underwater question you didn't see coming: outside of infidelity, is divorce ever justified?

Dr. Joel Muddamalle is the Director of Theology and Research at Proverbs 31 Ministries and the author of The Unseen Battle.

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What if Genesis is way bigger than you were taught?

Not just Adam, Eve, and a talking snake — but fallen angels, half-human giants, divine councils, and a cosmic war that's still happening right now.

Dr. Joel Muddamalle (PhD, theologian, bestselling author of The Unseen Battle) sits down with Lecrae to break down what most Christians were never taught about Genesis 6, the Nephilim, the sons of God, the Book of Enoch, and why the ancient world understood the Bible in ways that would completely blow your modern mind.

This is Part 1. Part 2 gets into demons and their real-world impact.

In this episode:

• Why Genesis has 3 "falls", not just one
• Who the "sons of God" in Genesis 6 actually were
• The Nephilim: what they were, what happened to them, and whether remnants survived the flood
• The Divine Council worldview and the scholarship of Dr. Michael Heizer
• The Book of Enoch: what it is, why it matters, and why it's not in your Bible
• The Tower of Babel and where the gods of the nations came from
• Why the earliest church held views your pastor probably never mentioned
• The cosmic spiritual war behind the division you see in the world today

Dr. Joel Muddamalle is a PhD theologian, bestselling author, Director of Theology & Research at Proverbs 31 Ministries, co-host of Therapy & Theology, and a preaching team member at Transformation Church with Pastor Derwin Gray. His book The Unseen Battle is his doctoral dissertation turned into a resource for everyday believers.

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Terry and Rebecca Crews have been in the public eye for decades, but what they share in this episode is nothing like what you see on screen. They sit down to talk about 36 years of marriage, the addiction that almost ended it, what it took to stay, and why they chose to go public when most people would have gone quiet. Terry opens up about disclosure, treatment, and learning to feel things he spent a lifetime burying. Rebecca talks about what grace actually costs. Together they make the case that the hardest seasons of your life might be the foundation of everything that comes next. One of the most honest conversations we have had on this show.

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Go to talkiatry.com/lecrae to get matched with a psychiatrist today Sleep well at night with code Lecrae for 30% at brooklynbedding.com Use code lecraestreak for $2.99/meal on everyplate.com/podcast Joshua Broome grew up in a small South Carolina town of 3,000 people, the son of two 15-year-olds who never dated, and watched his father through a restaurant window for years without ever hearing his voice. That father wound sent him chasing significance all the way to Hollywood, where he became one of the most prominent adult film stars in the industry under the name Raquel Reed, appearing in over a thousand films.

But behind the fame was a man quietly unraveling. In this raw and unflinching conversation with Lecrae, Joshua pulls back the curtain on what the adult film industry actually looks like from the inside, the suicidal ideation that nearly ended his life, a sexual assault in Paris he never told anyone about, and the moment a bank teller said his real name for the first time in 18 months and changed everything.

Now a pastor, husband, and father, Joshua talks about what healing actually looks like after trauma, why porn has nothing to do with sex and everything to do with intimacy, and how a woman named Hope and a heavenly Father gave him back his identity. This one goes deep. Don't say we didn't warn you!

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Chapter Markers

0:00 - Cold Open

1:17 - Introducing Joshua Broome

3:06 - Growing Up Fatherless

8:03 - First Exposure to Porn & the Spiral Begins

14:44 - Chasing Fame in Hollywood

21:26 - How He Got Recruited Into the Adult Film Industry

28:47 - The Reality on Set

40:08 - When Reality Started Breaking Through

43:30 - 47 Friends Dead: The Industry's Hidden Toll

45:16 - The Night in Paris & Suicidal Ideation

51:47 - The Bank Teller Who Said His Real Name

55:39 - Hearing the Gospel for the First Time

58:46 - The Real Work of Healing

1:00:21 - Marriage, Hope & Fighting the Lies

1:10:22 - The Depth of Confession

1:13:14 - What People Don't Know About the Adult Film Industry

1:19:10 - Becoming a Father & Forgiving His Own Dad

1:24:53 - Miscarriage, New Life & Choosing Hope Over Fear

1:27:28 - Closing: Tell Somebody

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Preston shares how a rigorous study of Scripture led him to unexpected conclusions on two of the most emotionally charged debates in the church today: women in leadership and LGBTQ+ sexuality. We talk about his new book From Genesis to Junior — an honest, real-time exegetical journey through what the Bible actually says about women and church leadership — and why he didn't know where he'd land before he started writing it.

We also get into the nuance behind yes-or-no culture, why "homosexuality is sin" isn't as simple a question as it sounds, the 83% statistic about LGBT people raised in the church, and what pastoral compassion actually looks like when someone asks "Did God make me gay?"

This is a conversation about truth AND grace — not one or the other.

Topics covered:

• What faithfulness to Jesus really looks like
• The debate over women in church leadership (complementarian vs. egalitarian)
• Primogeniture, Genesis 1–3, and what Adam's creation order actually means
• Same-sex attraction, celibacy, and navigating hard pastoral questions
• Why Preston refuses to give thin answers to thick questions
• The danger of cultural Christianity and sound-bite theolog

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Go to talkiatry.com/lecrae to get matched with a psychiatrist today. I'm excited for this one, fam. Today on The Deep End, I'm sitting down with my brother Country Wayne. Most of the world knows him for the billions of streams, the Netflix specials, and the viral skits that make your "mama's mama" laugh. But when you really look at his history, you see a story that's way deeper and more serious than the comedy he puts out.

We're talking about a man who lost his mom at 11, grew up surrounded by the drug game in Milan, Georgia, and eventually became a "doughboy" himself. But even when he was in the middle of all that, he never let what he was doing shake his faith in who he was.

• The Exit Strategy: Wayne talks about how he was trying to get out of the streets the entire time he was in them, eventually picking up a Bible at age 24 and reading it from the beginning.
• The Narrow Escape: He shares the wild reality of going viral while still "selling licks" and how he finally quit the game just one day before the feds knocked on his door.
• Faith Over Fame: Why he isn't ashamed to scream the name of Jesus and why he feels he's "endorsed" by God rather than the industry.
• Real Success: How he manages being a father of 10 and why he puts his business and family's well-being over the hollow parts of fame.
• Regrets and Redemption: A transparent look at his biggest regret—not doing what he was supposed to be doing sooner—and how losing his mother taught him that nothing in this world is truly "real" except faith.

"I just laugh through the fire... I knew I had a purpose and I just knew it was always tied to God."

Wayne is a true innovator and a serial entrepreneur who used the skills he learned in the streets to build a kingdom-minded empire. This conversation isn't just about comedy; it's about the grit, wisdom, and divine timing it takes to change your life.

Watch the full episode now to see how Wayne turned a mess into a masterpiece. _______________________________________________

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Reclaim your faith from OCD. Book a free 15 min call at https://www.treatmyocd.com/ In this episode of The Deep End, Lecrae sits down with world-renowned Bible teacher, author, and activist Christine Caine. Christine opens up about her powerful journey from being an "unnamed" child in Australia to leading a global movement against human trafficking.

She dives deep into the reality of childhood trauma, the shocking discovery of her adoption at age 33, and how she learned to "rewire" her brain through the Word of God. Whether you are struggling with a "mother wound," navigating disappointment in church leadership, or feeling like you're in your own "Hell Week," this conversation offers a roadmap for moving from survival to a life of true, supernatural flourishing.

In this episode, we discuss:

• How to handle the "pain of recovery" after a life-altering injury or trauma.

• The difference between a "well-managed life" and a supernatural one.

• Why your history does not define your destiny.

• Practical wisdom for the next generation of leaders in a social media-driven world.

• Why the most fruitful decade of your life might still be ahead of you.

• A21 Campaign: a21.org — Learn how you can help abolish slavery everywhere, forever.

• Propel Women: Resources to help women activate their passion and purpose.

• New Book: The Faith to Flourish — Available now.

Subscribe for more deep conversations on faith, leadership, and culture. CHAPTER MARKERS

00:00 Introduction to Christine Caine

02:38 History of Trauma and Resilience

03:33 Growing Up in a Greek Immigrant Home

05:15 The Discovery of Adoption

08:11 Unnamed Number 2508: A Crisis of Identity

09:23 Renewing the Mind through Scripture

11:48 From Numbers to People: The Mission of A21

13:35 Seeking the Biological Mother

15:16 "I Don't Want Any Trouble": A Mother's Voice

19:23 The Pain of Recovery vs. The Pain of Injury

21:42 Breaking Cultural and Family Expectations

27:29 Marriage and Shared Purpose with Nick Caine

34:51 The Wheel and the Oil: Balancing Life

37:17 Avoiding a Well-Managed Life without God

40:51 Having the Faith to Flourish

44:56 Justice Work and the Hope of Christ

52:43 Hell Week: The Choice to Keep Running

57:21 The Danger of Tapping Out at 60

59:42 Navigating Church Failure and Disappointment

01:03:57 Responding Out of Wisdom, Not Wounding

01:14:36 Advice for the Social Media Generation

01:17:03 Deep End Questions: Misconceptions and Prisons

01:23:24 Preparing for the Most Fruitful Decade

01:27:54 Legacy and Handing Over the Baton of Faith

01:31:53 Resources to Help Fight Human Trafficking

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What does it really take to survive marriage, ministry, fame, mental health battles, and faith... all at the same time? In this episode of The Deep End, Lecrae sits down with gospel icons, actors, and comedians David Mann and Tamela Mann for one of the most raw and honest conversations we've ever had. They open up about their nearly 40-year marriage, childhood trauma, poverty, blended family challenges, public scrutiny, depression, suicidal thoughts, and the faith that held them together when everything else was falling apart. From dumpster-diving as teenagers to standing ovations with Tyler Perry, from silent suffering to healing through therapy and prayer. This is survival, grace, repentance, forgiveness, and love that refuses to quit.

If you've ever wondered:

– How strong marriages are actually built

– What faith looks like in depression, not just success

– How to support a spouse who is drowning silently

– Why therapy and prayer are not enemies

– Or how God redeems the most painful chapters

This conversation is for you.

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Chapter Markers

00:00 – When success hides silent suffering

01:25 – Introducing David & Tamela Mann

03:59 – Authentic faith vs. church perfection

05:25 – How their friendship turned into marriage

07:58 – Singing together before fame

10:27 – Realizing adulthood and responsibility

14:23 – Falling in love through friendship

16:31 – Childhood trauma and broken homes

17:50 – Dumpster diving and survival

18:53 – Witnessing abuse and learning anger

21:03 – Choosing marriage when divorce felt easier

23:13 – The night the lights were shut off

26:24 – "The knock at the door" — discovering another child

30:02 – Choosing unity over jealousy

33:39 – Feeling alone inside marriage

37:08 – From Kirk Franklin to Tyler Perry

42:36 – When the worst career moment became the best

46:26 – Fame, generosity, and trauma behind the scenes

49:16 – Working together as husband and wife

55:03 – Depression, shame, and suicidal thoughts

58:11 – "Thousands watched me drown"

59:00 – A wife realizing she missed the warning signs

01:01:37 – Therapy, boundaries, and healing

01:04:29 – Faith that carries you through the night

01:06:19 – Music, success, and staying grounded

01:10:48 – Marriage as shared light, not competition

01:14:09 – What's next for David & Tamela

01:16:21 – Final words of hope and grace

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In this special episode of The Deep End, Lecrae sits down with two of his closest friends and longtime collaborators — Trip Lee and Tedashii — for an honest, funny, and deeply reflective conversation about faith, friendship, calling, and the wild journey that brought them here.

They rewind the tape on the early days of 116, talk about what it was really like building something that would later shape an entire movement, and reflect on what they didn't understand at the time — about leadership, influence, pressure, and God's timing.

Along the way, they unpack:

• How none of this was part of a master plan — and why that matters
• The tension between calling and control
• What leadership looks like when you don't actually want to be "the leader"
• How God used imperfect people, imperfect theology, and imperfect moments to do something lasting
• Why the impact often becomes clear only in the rearview mirror

There are serious moments. There are nostalgic moments. There are hilarious stories (including tour chaos, bad pranks, and arguments that started because everyone was tired and hungry). But underneath it all is a deeper question:

What does it look like to stay faithful over decades — not just seasons?

This episode isn't just about music. It's about friendship that lasts, calling that matures, and a faith that grows deeper as it gets tested by real life.

Whether you've followed these guys since the early 116 days or you're meeting them for the first time, this conversation is a reminder that God rarely writes straight lines — but He does write meaningful stories.

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DC Young Fly opens up like never before.

In this conversation, he speaks honestly about losing his wife, navigating grief, and what it means to stay obedient to God when life doesn't make sense. This isn't about fame, comedy, or success—it's about weakness, discipline, faith, and learning how to respond when everything changes.

DC shares why he leans on God, how obedience has kept him from crashing out, and why mastering your response matters more than trying to control the outcome.

This is a raw, vulnerable look at loss, love, and faith in the middle of pain.

Let's go to the Deep End!

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