Steven Curtis Chapman and Mary Beth Chapman have been married for more than four decades, but they'll be the first to tell you it hasn't been a fairy tale.

In this deeply honest conversation, Steven and Mary Beth join Rita to talk about the differences that once led a counselor to say they had “no business being married,” the devastating loss of their youngest daughter, Mary Beth's “free fall of faith,” and the decision to keep choosing each other through seasons that could have torn them apart.

They also unpack what they've learned about counseling, surrender, soulmates, parenting adult children, adoption, and discovering the goodness of God in life's darkest places.

Steven and Mary Beth's new book, Still Here: Life Together on the Long Way Home, tells the story of a marriage that isn't perfect, but by the grace of God, is still here.

00:00 Intro

01:08 Meet Steven Curtis Chapman and Mary Beth Chapman

04:13 Why They Wrote "Still Here"

10:21 Why They're Still Here After 41 Years

11:45 What Makes a Marriage Last?

17:08 Sponsor: Amazing Kids Curriculum

18:04 Counseling, Therapy & the Ultimate Counselor

27:20 Learning Surrender in Marriage

31:21 What Is a Soulmate?

33:18 Growing Through Life's Hardest Seasons

35:55 Losing Their Daughter & Holding Onto Faith

39:47 "It's Worth It" — Why They Stayed

42:55 Parenting Through Pain & Letting Go

53:13 Adoption, Show Hope & Seeing the Heart of God

1:01:07 How Show Hope Has Helped Over 10,000 Children

1:05:30 Final Thoughts & Where to Find the Book

1:07:03 Marriage, Grandkids & Growing Older Together

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Patrick Lencioni joins Rita Springer to unpack the life-changing concept of Working Genius, discovering the two kinds of work God uniquely designed you to love.

Together they explore burnout, calling, church leadership, parenting and why so many Christians feel like frauds when they're simply working outside their God-given design. 

If you've ever wondered why some work energizes you and other work drains you, this conversation is for you.

00:00 Intro

00:59 Rita's Unexpected Catholic Leadership Gathering

03:56 Pat's Vision for Christian Unity

06:46 Why Unity in the Church Matters

10:28 The New Divide Among Christians

14:16 Sponsor – Amazing Kids Curriculum

15:12 Performance vs. Authentic Faith

17:17 Why Young People Are Returning to Catholicism

22:17 The Working Genius Explained

29:06 The Six Types of Working Genius

34:15 Putting People in the Right Roles

40:16 Burnout in Church Leadership

45:40 Helping Young People Find Their Calling

57:15 Discovering Your "Burning"

59:40 Gifts vs. Virtues

01:04:23 Healthy Churches & Faithful Leadership

01:05:31 The Future of Church Unity

01:06:18 Surrender, Suffering & Spiritual Growth

01:12:39 Where to Learn More About Working Genius

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Christine D'Clario shares the story she never planned to tell. 

After accidentally admitting on live radio that she was battling mental illness, she expected her ministry to be over. Instead, her vulnerability opened the door for countless people to seek healing. 

This conversation explores burnout, trauma, Sabbath, therapy, worship, and the surprising purpose of healing.

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What happens when the worst thing imaginable becomes your reality?

Jennie Lusko shares the heartbreaking story of losing her five-year-old daughter and how she learned to trust God through unimaginable grief. Together with Rita Springer, they explore suffering, worship, healing, lingering in God's presence, and why grief doesn't mean you've lost your faith. This conversation will bring hope to anyone walking through loss.

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00:00 – Trusting God Through the Unthinkable (Episode Intro)
01:15 – Welcome: Meeting Jenny Lesko & Ministry Beginnings
07:30 – Planting Fresh Life Church in Montana
14:00 – Raising the Next Generation & Why Youth Matter
16:30 – What Is the Church Missing Today?
20:30 – Fresh Mercies Every Day: Why Simple Faith Matters
24:00 – Learning to Trust God One Day at a Time
29:00 – Losing Their Daughter Lenya & Walking Through Grief
35:00 – Why We Need to Linger in God's Presence
39:00 – Feeling Forgotten by God: Rita's Starbucks Story
43:00 – What Does It Mean to Truly Flourish?
48:00 – Healing Comes When We Stop Numbing Our Pain
51:30 – Worship Is Our Weapon in Every Battle
59:00 – Can God Bring Purpose Out of Pain?
1:02:30 – Jesus Wept: Finding Hope in Deep Grief
1:06:00 – The Permission to Keep Grieving
1:09:30 – Final Encouragement & Where to Find Fresh Mercies Every Day

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Did the Church accidentally make people afraid of the Holy Spirit?

In this conversation, Rita Springer sits down with Pastor Alex Seeley to unpack one of the most misunderstood topics in Christianity. They explore how one generation turned the Holy Spirit into a spectacle while another avoided Him altogether—and why both extremes miss God's heart.

Discover why the Holy Spirit is your greatest advantage, how to hear God's voice, why Scripture comes alive through His presence, and what it really means to live a Spirit-led life.

Whether you're skeptical, curious, or longing for more of God, this conversation will challenge and encourage you.

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00:00 Intro
01:00 Why the Church Needs the Holy Spirit Again
11:19 Sponsor: Amazing Kids Curriculum
12:16 Learning to Hear God's Voice
17:14 How to Fall in Love with Scripture
27:31 How Do You Know It's God Speaking?
32:52 When God Feels Silent
37:05 Finding God in Seasons of Suffering
41:58 Henry's Life-Changing Encounter with the Holy Spirit
50:50 The Holy Spirit Gives Practical Wisdom
56:43 Why Every Believer Needs the Holy Spirit
59:00 A Call to Live Spirit-Empowered

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Jeremy Edwardson has spent years uncovering one of the most fascinating family mysteries imaginable. 

Could his ancestor have been the hidden daughter of Queen Victoria's mother? From DNA tests and centuries-old archives to grief, creativity, and God's unexpected guidance, this conversation explores history, mystery, and the surprising ways purpose can emerge from pain.

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Amy Grant joins Rita Springer for one of her most personal conversations yet. From influence beyond the stage to motherhood, songwriting, suffering, finding her voice, and learning to surrender, Amy shares the wisdom that has shaped over four decades of faith and music. This isn't just a conversation about Christian music, it's about living a life that truly sees people.
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Is it wrong to make money writing worship music? 

Can worship stay pure inside an industry? 

Rita Springer sits down with Poets & Prophets, the collective moniker for songwriters Rebekah White Williams, Josh Farro, Mitch Wong, and Tommy Iceland, four voices that have already shaped the landscape of modern worship and CCM, for an honest conversation about songwriting, calling, success, holiness, family and what the Church should be singing today. 

This vulnerable discussion challenges assumptions about worship while pointing back to Jesus, Scripture and serving the Church.

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What if the biggest danger facing the Church isn't outside the walls, but inside them? 

Rita Springer sits down with journalist and filmmaker Billy Hollowell to discuss miracles, angels, demons, deliverance, hearing God's voice, and why so many Christians avoid talking about spiritual warfare. 

From investigating supernatural encounters to his own unexpected journey through deliverance, Billy shares stories that challenged everything he thought he knew about faith and the unseen realm.

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