In the conclusion of Jason's discussion with Jim McKelvey, the co-founder of Square and author of The Innovation Stack: Building an Unbeatable Business One Crazy Idea at a Time, Jim talks about the differences between an entrepreneur and a business person and why he thinks audacity is a great substitute for tenacity.

In the conclusion of Jason's discussion with Jim McKelvey, the co-founder of Square and author of The Innovation Stack: Building an Unbeatable Business One Crazy Idea at a Time, Jim talks about the differences between an entrepreneur and a business person and why he thinks audacity is a great substitute for tenacity.

In the conclusion of Jason's discussion with&nbsp;Jim McKelvey, the co-founder of Square and author of The Innovation Stack: Building an Unbeatable Business One Crazy Idea at a Time, Jim talks about the differences between an entrepreneur and a business person and why he thinks audacity is a great substitute for tenacity.

Episode 12 | Part Two: Jim McKelvey

Up In Your Business with Jason Randall is a podcast for business leaders navigating the real challenges of running and growing a company.

Each episode dives into the issues that matter most to employers today—from HR and compliance to benefits, leadership, culture, and day-to-day operational decisions. The goal is simple: give you clear, practical insight you can actually use.

Hosted by Jason Randall, the show brings straightforward conversations, real-world perspectives, and expert guidance to help you make smarter decisions for your business and your people.

Whether you're scaling your team, managing change, or trying to stay ahead of what’s next, this podcast is built for you.

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Up In Your Business with Jason Randall is a podcast for business leaders navigating the real challenges of running and growing a company. Each episode dives into the issues that matter most to employers today—from HR and compliance to benefits, leadership, culture, and day-to-day operational decisions. The goal is simple: give you clear, practical insight you can actually use. Hosted by Jason Randall, the show brings straightforward conversations, real-world perspectives, and expert guidance to help you make smarter decisions for your business and your people. Whether you're scaling your team, managing change, or trying to stay ahead of what’s next, this podcast is built for you.

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