Mike Beyer, the co-author of Pencils Down: Career Journeys of Educators Who Left the Profession and What We Can Learn from the Crisis in Education, joins us as we discuss why teachers are leaving droves, what motivated him to write the book, his journey from teacher to principal who was then fired, to non-profit work to the corporate world; the history of teaching in our country and how it's been feminized; the time Lauren got in trouble for calling 911 when a student was overdosing; how ridiculous the "self-care" attempts of admin. are; the issues that are blamed on COVID; how we don't trust our children like we used to; why we're so obsessed with data, why Mike got fired, and we play the "Who Gave These Shitty Gifts?" Game: admin. or a student?

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