Ashley and Adam bring on their favorite frenemy, journalist Phil Hersh, to talk about the best/worst program music in figure skating and some of his favorite interviews over the years. This episode also includes a moment to honor Alex Paul, who passed away suddenly last week. If you'd like to donate to the fund to support her husband Mitch and her infant son Charlie, please go to https://www.gofundme.com/f/supporting-baby-charlie-loss-of-mother-alex-paul. Thank you.