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In this foolish episode, we…. Wait, what is it we do here again? I… I can’t remember… we’ve got a long road ahead of us if we’re going to make sense of all this.
(Seriously. It turns out we can’t even begin to answer this question without talking about the nature of storytelling, improv, kayfabe, the role of GM, the purpose of rules, being instructed to *break* those rules, what it means to “play”, the promises made when a game describes itself… this was meant to be a silly joke episode, dangit!)
Freya turns her lovers into fighters. Violet collates a collaborative coventure. Freya is drawn to a new role. Violet explores the past pre-tense. Freya breaks free of her bindings. Violet imagines a world without imagination.
*** Timestamps ***
What’s new - 02:56
Mailbag - 11:07
Intro to the topic - 18:30
History - 25:12
Taxonomicon - 40:16
Actual start of the taxonomicon - 41:06
Just kidding, it’s a discussion of the spectrum between ‘board game’ and ‘improv theatre’ - 41:07
Could this be the taxo- oh, no, now we’re talking about the nature of rules - 46:32
Listen, I think we’re just not going to have a normal taxonomicon in this one - ?:??:!?
Wait! A list of games in quick succession! This must be it! - 53:20
Discussion about Wanderhome and Kishotenketsu and game Promises and- are we sure we actually know what this podcast is about at all? - 01:05:36
Who’s Game is it anyway? (Discussion on the nature of GMs) - 01:21:08
The Counterexampliad, whatever that means - 01:27:25
Exclusive unlocked patreon content preview [*1]: international paper size deep dive - 01:31:51 to 01:33:17
Design Dreams - 01:56:58
We made it! - 02:12:59
*** Design Dreams ***
Two Truths And A Lie-Fall
Parasocial Investigations
Diararchaeology
Redaction RPG
PBTA Chaos Draft
Co-Op Adventure QWOP
RPG: Rebus-Picto-Glyphs
*** Games discussed ***
D&D 3.5e
Heavy Gear
D&D 1e
Pathfinder 1e
Eat the Reich
Unravel
Stories from the Grave
Wildsea
Eberron
GoGo Golf
Kagematsu
Triangle Agency
Hyborea
Coventry [*2]
Tunnels & Trolls
Pasión de las Pasiones
In Nomine Satanis / Magna Veritas
Vampire: the Masquerade
Apocalypse World
Dogs in the Vineyard
World Wide Wrestling
Monsterhearts
A Song Of Ice And Fire RPG
Genesys
Fellowship
Masks
Do: Fate of the Flying Temple
Avatar Legends
Yazeba’s Bed And Breakfast
Troika
Mausritter
Golden Sky Stories
Savage Worlds
Wanderhome
Journeymon
Alas for the Awful Sea
Transit
Lancer
Chuubo’s Marvellous Wish-Granting Engine
Slugblaster
Interstitial
Pitcrawler
Triangle Agency
Mothership
Cypher
RuneQuest II
Monster of the Week
Brindlewood Bay
Scherzando
Lost Kingdom
Belonging Outside Belonging
Colostle
For Small Creatures Such As We
Wreck This Deck
Hot Damn Deadly Alien Overlord Au Pair [*3]
Tacklebox
For The Queen
Our Queen Crumbles
The Tragedy of GJ237B
Paranoia
Toon
Microscope
I’m Sorry Did You Say Street Magic
Acts Of Evil [*4]
“Messed Up Little Guy” [*5]
Goblin Country
Dream Askew
Band of Blades
Ars Magica
Everyone Is John
Star Trek Adventures
This Discord Has Ghosts In It
Goblonia
Everything Is Tables
Your Body A Landscape
Spire
De Profundis
Apothecaria
*** Other media discussed ***
Mass Effect
The Twilight Zone (and its ilk)
Majora’s Mask
Final Fantasy Tactics Advance
The Elusive Shift
Kriegsspiel [6]
The Lord of the Rings
Battleship
Mastermind
Kiki’s Delivery Service
Star Wars: Empire At War
FTL
Nier
Final Fantasy XIV
Fighting Fantasy
Grapefruit (Yoko Ono)
Foundation
Unwritten Earths Symposium
October: Ten Days That Shook The World
Spyfall
Pacific Rim
Dicey Dungeons
City of the Six Moons
Wildermyth
Penny Arcade
*** Notes ***
[*1] This is a joke, we don’t have a patreon and if we did we’d serve you something better than this gag, probably.
[*2] As you’ll discover when listening, this and several other entries on this list are debatably proto-RPGs. I’m giving them the honour of not being relegated to the ‘other media’ zone…
[*3] Once again - I’m sorry, world.
[*4] The author’s name is Paul Czege.
[*5] By Grant Howitt. This is a paraphrasing of the game’s name, but delightfully, you will find it if you google this.
[*6] Unlike Coventry, this one definitely goes on the ‘other’ list. Because it definitely is a wargame. It’s in the name.
*** Links ***
The term “ashcan edition” derives from quick, low-quality mockups used in the comics industry to quickly establish trademarks, and not intended to be read: something you’d take one look at, then thrown in the (tr)ashcan. In publishing, the term has shifted to mean early promotional materials. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashcan_comic
Ironically, if you haven’t seen this xkcd, we may have overestimated your familiarity. https://xkcd.com/2501/
“Fafhrd”, of “Fafhrd and the Grey Mouser”, probably isn’t pronounced the way Violet valiantly attempted. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fafhrd_and_the_Gray_Mouser
Violet quotes from The Grasshopper: Games, Life, and Utopia, by ludologist Bernard Suits. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lusory_attitude
Freya only references webcomics if they’re at least 17 years old. https://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2009/03/20/in-search-of-a-robust-cosmology
*** Contact us! ***
Thank you to everyone who has emailed into our mailbag - If you too have a question, idea, or interesting game you’d like to share with us, email [email protected]
*** Additional Credits ***
Our intro music is
"Magic Escape Room" by Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)
Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 License
http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/
By Violet & FreyaIn this foolish episode, we…. Wait, what is it we do here again? I… I can’t remember… we’ve got a long road ahead of us if we’re going to make sense of all this.
(Seriously. It turns out we can’t even begin to answer this question without talking about the nature of storytelling, improv, kayfabe, the role of GM, the purpose of rules, being instructed to *break* those rules, what it means to “play”, the promises made when a game describes itself… this was meant to be a silly joke episode, dangit!)
Freya turns her lovers into fighters. Violet collates a collaborative coventure. Freya is drawn to a new role. Violet explores the past pre-tense. Freya breaks free of her bindings. Violet imagines a world without imagination.
*** Timestamps ***
What’s new - 02:56
Mailbag - 11:07
Intro to the topic - 18:30
History - 25:12
Taxonomicon - 40:16
Actual start of the taxonomicon - 41:06
Just kidding, it’s a discussion of the spectrum between ‘board game’ and ‘improv theatre’ - 41:07
Could this be the taxo- oh, no, now we’re talking about the nature of rules - 46:32
Listen, I think we’re just not going to have a normal taxonomicon in this one - ?:??:!?
Wait! A list of games in quick succession! This must be it! - 53:20
Discussion about Wanderhome and Kishotenketsu and game Promises and- are we sure we actually know what this podcast is about at all? - 01:05:36
Who’s Game is it anyway? (Discussion on the nature of GMs) - 01:21:08
The Counterexampliad, whatever that means - 01:27:25
Exclusive unlocked patreon content preview [*1]: international paper size deep dive - 01:31:51 to 01:33:17
Design Dreams - 01:56:58
We made it! - 02:12:59
*** Design Dreams ***
Two Truths And A Lie-Fall
Parasocial Investigations
Diararchaeology
Redaction RPG
PBTA Chaos Draft
Co-Op Adventure QWOP
RPG: Rebus-Picto-Glyphs
*** Games discussed ***
D&D 3.5e
Heavy Gear
D&D 1e
Pathfinder 1e
Eat the Reich
Unravel
Stories from the Grave
Wildsea
Eberron
GoGo Golf
Kagematsu
Triangle Agency
Hyborea
Coventry [*2]
Tunnels & Trolls
Pasión de las Pasiones
In Nomine Satanis / Magna Veritas
Vampire: the Masquerade
Apocalypse World
Dogs in the Vineyard
World Wide Wrestling
Monsterhearts
A Song Of Ice And Fire RPG
Genesys
Fellowship
Masks
Do: Fate of the Flying Temple
Avatar Legends
Yazeba’s Bed And Breakfast
Troika
Mausritter
Golden Sky Stories
Savage Worlds
Wanderhome
Journeymon
Alas for the Awful Sea
Transit
Lancer
Chuubo’s Marvellous Wish-Granting Engine
Slugblaster
Interstitial
Pitcrawler
Triangle Agency
Mothership
Cypher
RuneQuest II
Monster of the Week
Brindlewood Bay
Scherzando
Lost Kingdom
Belonging Outside Belonging
Colostle
For Small Creatures Such As We
Wreck This Deck
Hot Damn Deadly Alien Overlord Au Pair [*3]
Tacklebox
For The Queen
Our Queen Crumbles
The Tragedy of GJ237B
Paranoia
Toon
Microscope
I’m Sorry Did You Say Street Magic
Acts Of Evil [*4]
“Messed Up Little Guy” [*5]
Goblin Country
Dream Askew
Band of Blades
Ars Magica
Everyone Is John
Star Trek Adventures
This Discord Has Ghosts In It
Goblonia
Everything Is Tables
Your Body A Landscape
Spire
De Profundis
Apothecaria
*** Other media discussed ***
Mass Effect
The Twilight Zone (and its ilk)
Majora’s Mask
Final Fantasy Tactics Advance
The Elusive Shift
Kriegsspiel [6]
The Lord of the Rings
Battleship
Mastermind
Kiki’s Delivery Service
Star Wars: Empire At War
FTL
Nier
Final Fantasy XIV
Fighting Fantasy
Grapefruit (Yoko Ono)
Foundation
Unwritten Earths Symposium
October: Ten Days That Shook The World
Spyfall
Pacific Rim
Dicey Dungeons
City of the Six Moons
Wildermyth
Penny Arcade
*** Notes ***
[*1] This is a joke, we don’t have a patreon and if we did we’d serve you something better than this gag, probably.
[*2] As you’ll discover when listening, this and several other entries on this list are debatably proto-RPGs. I’m giving them the honour of not being relegated to the ‘other media’ zone…
[*3] Once again - I’m sorry, world.
[*4] The author’s name is Paul Czege.
[*5] By Grant Howitt. This is a paraphrasing of the game’s name, but delightfully, you will find it if you google this.
[*6] Unlike Coventry, this one definitely goes on the ‘other’ list. Because it definitely is a wargame. It’s in the name.
*** Links ***
The term “ashcan edition” derives from quick, low-quality mockups used in the comics industry to quickly establish trademarks, and not intended to be read: something you’d take one look at, then thrown in the (tr)ashcan. In publishing, the term has shifted to mean early promotional materials. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashcan_comic
Ironically, if you haven’t seen this xkcd, we may have overestimated your familiarity. https://xkcd.com/2501/
“Fafhrd”, of “Fafhrd and the Grey Mouser”, probably isn’t pronounced the way Violet valiantly attempted. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fafhrd_and_the_Gray_Mouser
Violet quotes from The Grasshopper: Games, Life, and Utopia, by ludologist Bernard Suits. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lusory_attitude
Freya only references webcomics if they’re at least 17 years old. https://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2009/03/20/in-search-of-a-robust-cosmology
*** Contact us! ***
Thank you to everyone who has emailed into our mailbag - If you too have a question, idea, or interesting game you’d like to share with us, email [email protected]
*** Additional Credits ***
Our intro music is
"Magic Escape Room" by Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)
Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 License
http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/