This week co-hosts Tess Whitehurst and Natasha Levinger are happy to welcome Byron Ballard, teacher, folklorist, writer, and animist.  In this interview, they cover growing up wild in rural Appalachia, all children starting out as animists, becoming a Wiccan in young adulthood, founding Mother Grove Goddess Temple, endarkenment vs enlightenment, a broader definition of permaculture, acknowledged kinship to the natural world, and more.

In the usual weekly segments, Tess & Natasha cover how all feelings are neutral, grieving and pain and allowing, the fear of feeling, Tess's cat's refusal to be contained, birthday IFS work for Tess, energetic hygiene, bringing in chrysanthemums for fall, and (you guessed it) even more!

Plus...

• Tess's latest book, The Self-Love Superpower, is out in September but available for pre-order now!