The Evernest Real Estate Investor

Episode 122: Why Cash Flow Won't Make You Rich (But Real Estate Will)


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Jeremy Tallman and Scott Hallberg, owners of T&H Real Estate Services and managers of 1200+ doors, join Spencer Sutton in this episode of The Evernest Real Estate Investor Show. This conversation challenges the conventional wisdom that cash flow is the primary path to wealth in real estate. Instead, we spotlight long-term ownership, leverage, and the five profit centers that fuel lasting success. Get in touch with Jeremy and Scott here.

You'll Learn:

  • Wealth in real estate is built through patient ownership and strategic leverage, not just monthly cash flow.
  • Real success comes from understanding all five profit centers: cash flow, tax benefits, loan paydown, appreciation, and inflation hedging.
  • Cash flow doesn't correlate to financial freedom on a 1:1 basis; appreciation and equity build most wealth over time.
  • Searching for deep discounts or high-yield deals requires adapting to current market realities and being open to secondary cities with better rental properties.

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Hosts: Spencer Sutton and Adam Hobson

Guest: Jeremy Tallman and Scott Hallberg, Owners of T&H Real Estate Services

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Production House: Flint Stone Media

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The Evernest Real Estate InvestorBy Matthew Whitaker, Spencer Sutton, and Gray Hall