In this episode we explore the negative connotations and politicization surrounding DEI, as well as the financial motivations behind it. Our conversation delves into the binary nature of DEI approaches and the need for a more holistic and heart-centered approach. We also discuss the impact of legal precedents on DEI programs, using the example of a reparations program in Evanston, Illinois. We delve into the importance of moving beyond binary thinking and finding alternative ways to create meaningful change. The conversation explores the idea that DEI (Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion) is not dead but needs to evolve beyond binary thinking. It discusses the challenges of navigating a binary system and the importance of exploring multiple truths and non-binary spaces. The conversation also highlights the role of the media in sensationalizing and misrepresenting DEI efforts. It emphasizes the need for decentralized leadership models, individualized approaches, and the diversification, equity, and inclusion of DEI efforts. The conversation concludes with a call to reclaim our humanity, dream of a world where needs are met, and work towards cultures of belonging.

00:00 Land Acknowledgement and Connecting to the Earth 06:26 The Claim that DEI is Dead 08:11 The Negative Connotations and Politicization of DEI 23:10 The Impact of Legal Precedents on DEI 26:03 Moving Beyond Binary Thinking in DEI 27:07 Moving Beyond Binary Thinking 32:37 The Role of Media in DEI Sensationalism 36:25 Celebritizing and Pedestalizing in DEI 39:49 Diversification, Equity, and Inclusion in DEI 45:49 Reclaiming Our Humanity for DEI 47:47 Dreaming of a World with Cultures of Belonging