In this episode Matt and I meet with ESR’s dean, Jay Marshall, to talk with a group of students who are a part of a first cohort in an 18-month certificate program in entrepreneurial ministry. These students have met together first in a retreat setting with one of the instructors, Samir Selmanovic (wisdomworkroom.com). Samir will also be teaching a fall semester course on Spirituality and the Entrepreneur. The course the students are just completing during the two-week August intensive is Creating Your Ministry Canvas with Rebecca Jestice, Associate Professor of Global Management at Earlham College. We will be hearing from four of the 11 students in the program, some ESR graduates and some current ESR students. Of the former are Adriana and Summer; of the latter group are Jaimie and Andy. We recorded our conversation on August 11th, 2017.