In this conversation, Elliott and Chase discuss their experiences with hunting and the challenges they face in finding secluded spots. They talk about how they met their hunting buddies through the internet and the importance of having downtime during the hunting season. They also touch on topics such as camping laws, barge traffic on the Mississippi River, and the need to be cautious about sharing hunting spots. Chase discusses his hunting experiences and the importance of having a calling network to find birds. He also talks about the challenges of scouting and the variability of blue-winged teal hunting. Elliott shares his experience with rusted shells and how Chase's shell pouches have solved that problem. Chase explains how he came up with the idea for the shell pouches and the success he has had in selling them. He also discusses the other products he has added to his line, including backpacks and gun cases. The conversation ends with a discussion about the excitement of starting a small business and the support of the waterfowl community.

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