Recorded on Nov 20, 2024; In this episode we touch on a variety of topics, starting off with the pool party Elana hosted that ended up changing the life of one of Jonas’ best friends, Steve Kelley. From there we touch on the themes of paying it forward, the fate of our democracy in light of the recent 2024 presidential election, the importance of listening to others, forgiveness, our shared love of movies and art, bittersweet memories, and feeling overwhelmed, among so many other topics. This wide-ranging, heartfelt, open and honest conversation with Elana is another example of why it is that “a lot of people want to be with her, and I don’t blame them.”
Larry’s wonderful tune, “Good Vibes” is the perfect way to wrap things up at the end. 

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