Dan is joined by actor and painter, Mark Jackson. Mark also plays to perfection Isaac on The Orville!

We talk about Mark's journey of becoming a painter, finding new creative answers, jumping in the deep end with an exhibition of his art, being accountable only to yourself as a painter, vulnerability in painting, being honest with yourself, chasing tornadoes, acting not being the be all end all, not pigeonholing yourself as an artist, bringing joy to yourself, drawing upon puppetry when playing Isaac in The Orville, working on a potential fourth season of The Orville, facing nerves, falling into acting, learning to take compliments, positive reinforcement, America inspiring Mark to diversify in his art, painting being all about mistakes, training to be brave, creating chaos on a canvas then bringing it to order, and so much more!

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