This week’s podcast has it all! It starts out with a fun, light-hearted conversation with Jeff Epstein on the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills, the importance of a perfect Housewives ensemble, and the similarities between Mandy’s mom and Kathy Hilton (Jeff’s fav baby girl). Then Mandy’s joined by behavioral health therapist Tana Clardy to discuss some real tough stuff from this week’s Real Housewives of New York. They tackle issues of racism and white fragility head on, laugh at Heather’s attempt at allyship, and explore the extreme hypocrisy of Leah McSweeney.

Jeff Epstein - 4:08

Tana Clardy - 57:40

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