In this episode of The Retirement Spy, host Duncan interviews Chris Johnson, a retired professional who has turned his passion for pickleball into a career as a professional pickleball referee. They discuss Chris's transition from a 45-year career in the chemical industry to retirement, his introduction to pickleball, and how he became involved in refereeing at a professional level. The conversation also touches on the growth of pickleball as a sport, the challenges faced by referees, and reflections on life and retirement planning.