In this conversation, Israel Garcia and William Zahorak discuss the complexities of leadership within the Marine Corps, focusing on toxic leadership. William Zahorak shares his personal experiences and insights on what constitutes toxic leadership, the importance of being a good leader, and the responsibilities that come with the rank of first sergeant.

They also explore the challenges of managing talent and the human factors unfluencing leadership dynamics. The discussion emphasizes the need for accountability among peers and the significance of mentorship in fostering a positive leadership environment.