Trump appeared on jumbotrons at a 9/11 event on the National Mall — a revivalist Christian political rally and concert organized by musician and would-be politician Sean Feucht. Senator Josh Hawley from Missouri attended in person, imploring God to help with the reversing of Roe V Wade. We spoke to Donie O'Sullivan, repeat guest and correspondent for CNN, about his path covering MAGA, QAnon, and other right wing events this year; as well as why he ended up at this specific 9/11 event on the National Mall.

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