This week in the void, we bring in Professor Douglas Brattebo, Political Science, to talk about things that are distinctly not political science related, but then also a little related. Along the way, we talk about how Professor Brattebo met Jeffrey, the amazing superpower of pessimism, Depression Sandwiches, electing our parents president, and creating our dream careers. After a brief intermission, sing along if you know the words, we use some of the good professor's expertise to discuss the role of hope in life and politics, and whether or not being hopeful is really enough.

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