Patricia de las Casas Elias Bonnemaison, a psychanalyste, author, member of the Peruvian volleyball team, and grandmother, talks about her experience as a grandmother in Peru. Her daughter, Rocio Luna de las Casas, a psychologist, infant mental health specialist, and psychoanalytic candidate, will join the conversation to discuss Peruvian grandmothers and daughters, culture, and the power of relationships.