James and Nick welcome Zack Van Ginkel of HDA Cigars to the program. The trio discuss how Zack and his business partner, Andray, got into the cigar industry. We find out that Zack is a good 'ole Iowa boy who is making his way in the cigar industry. We discuss Iowa retailers and retailers in general, we also find out about Zack's military background. Zack talks about working with James and Angela Brown at Oveja Negra and wanting to blend their own cigars that stand on their own. Zack then touches on milestones for HDA, the cigar industry, and retailers in general.