In this new episode of The Angry Ops Guy Podcast, Mike sits down with Eric Cook - one of the most respected operators in the WSI network and a longtime friend who’s been in the agency trenches longer than most. The conversation spans leadership, burnout, travel overload, crisis management, and what it really takes to sustain a high-stakes agency when the internet never sleeps. From banking-sector pressure to tech outages, client trust, and the hidden cost of always being "on", this one is grounded, honest, and packed with hard-earned perspective.

And because it’s still Mike and Eric, the seriousness never goes uninterrupted for long. Somewhere between life lessons and Ops wisdom, the conversation detours into man-child humour, near-miss disasters, and the kind of friendship you only earn after years of mutual respect, bad decisions, and surviving agency life together.