Wiggo takes over the hosting job and talks to Nick Maniatis and me about the 17 years we’ve known each other. The intensity of discussion, fandom and interests and my issue with skipping between my two friends. Which sports make us lose it and how we think about what the other person is thinking. Vague scary movie descriptions scared Ben too.

(57 mins – Right click / long press here to download – 39.4 mb – 15/03/24)