Will Gillespie first appeared in episode 129 with his family, talking about their efforts to balance their cattle ranch against the needs of the natural world. They not only raise cattle, but they also support and maintain the Prairie Ridge Wildlife Refuge next door—both of which are prospering and flourishing.

But there’s more to Will than that. He’s also an engineer, a coal mine inspector, and the author of a terrific book called “Cows I have Known.” Join me for this short interview with Will as we explore his decidedly non-linear career.

You can order Will's book here: https://www.amazon.com/Cows-Have-Known-William-Gillespie-ebook/dp/B06XKFJZWP/ref=sr_1_1?crid=3LMXSIZFFAQ6G&keywords=Cows+I+Have+Known&qid=1660339678&sprefix=cows+i+have+known%2Caps%2C69&sr=8-1.