<p>John & Pat go back to the ’80s (like they ever left) to indulge in their goth and dance sides. Since neither of them can dance, it ends up just being more dreary than usual.</p>

John & Pat go back to the ’80s (like they ever left) to indulge in their goth and dance sides. Since neither of them can dance, it ends up just being more dreary than usual.

<p>John &amp; Pat go back to the ’80s (like they ever left) to indulge in their goth and dance sides. Since neither of them can dance, it ends up just being more dreary than usual.</p>

Episode 179: Joy Division – Substance vs. New Order – Substance

John and Pat have no experience and are uniquely unqualified to discuss Pop Culture. Yet, week after week they get together to take one piece of Pop Culture from history, and compare it to something more modern. Never offering insight, but often finding new ways to insult.

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Episode 179: Joy Division – Substance vs. New Order – Substance

Episode 179: Joy Division – Substance vs. New Order – Substance