This episode was recorded on June 18th, 2021. Join myself, Kathie Smigels (Zupac’s resident therapist) and her daughter Maria Smigels along side Yana Galanin and her daughter Armani Nagel.

Together we explore the dynamics of a mother daughter relationship and the impact that a tight knit bond can make. The mothers share their struggles and how they’ve used their own pain as motivation to stop the generational trauma we all carry from passing on.

The love overflows when the daughters share what they recognize and admire most about their mothers... bringing us back full circle into our hearts...let’s come back to love!