In our most recent episode, we welcome a special guest, Jay McCleskey, who is widely regarded as the best political consultant in the business. Jay brings his extensive experience in successfully running campaigns, including Governor Susana Martinez's two victories and Mark's own run for governor in 2022.

While Mark's campaign may have narrowly missed victory against the current governor, Michelle Lujan Grisham, the conversation between Mark, Krysty  and Jay delves into the fascinating world of political campaigns. You'll be taken on an exclusive inside journey, hearing the behind-the-scenes stories and tactics employed during their high-stakes campaign for the governorship of New Mexico.

Discover the gripping details of how they emerged victorious in the Republican primary and get a firsthand account of their tireless efforts to challenge the sitting governor. This episode provides unique insights into the challenges, victories, and lessons learned during a gubernatorial race.

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