In this episode, we’re doubling down on the NFL talk and adding a dash of baseball from across the globe. First, Gevin flips the script and interviews Dave about what it was like to catch a baseball game in Japan. Then, former NFL coach and bestselling author Daron K. Roberts joins the guys to share lessons from the sidelines, tell stories of rejection that helped him find his purpose, and explain the meaning of the title of his latest book, Microwins. Finally, friend of the pod and NFL great Chris Carr returns to break down what really goes on during training camp — the grind, the glory, and the unglamorous parts no one sees.

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